Comments on: Nortel’s Mess – Why would anybody want this ? http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/ Telecom news, thoughts, analysis and provocative opinion Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:59:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Avaya Nortel, Nortel Avaya. Which one is it ? And what happens to your old Nortel equipment ? — TheTelecomBlog.com http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-2171 Avaya Nortel, Nortel Avaya. Which one is it ? And what happens to your old Nortel equipment ? — TheTelecomBlog.com Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:57:11 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-2171 [...] July 2009 June 29th, 2009: Nortel’s Mess – Why would anybody want this ? [...] [...] July 2009 June 29th, 2009: Nortel’s Mess – Why would anybody want this ? [...]

]]> By: kostenlos downloaden http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-32 kostenlos downloaden Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:24:27 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-32 Damn, that sound's so easy if you think about it. Damn, that sound’s so easy if you think about it.

]]> By: Bill Boudreau http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Bill Boudreau Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:54:30 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-19 EX NT EMPL says Nortel was tthe cream of the crop until thh greed management came on board and hoodwinked the shareholders around the 1990's from then on it was the Canadian ENRON story and many have the bank accounts to prove it EX NT EMPL says Nortel was tthe cream of the crop until thh greed management came on board and hoodwinked the shareholders around the 1990’s from then on it was the Canadian ENRON story and many have the bank accounts to prove it

]]> By: NT Dealer http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-15 NT Dealer Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:20:43 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-15 I'm a dealer and can only attest the truth of this post. one example i bumped into this week on a newly installed bcm50, F986 doesn't work in conjunction with SWCA auto invoke park by pressing hold, as the call is being parked and F986 can't pull it out from PARK. go figure. the next thing I have to do is call tech support to speak to an Indian who has ZERO experience in the product he is supporting, all of his experience comes from a boring training where he went through the feature set 'on paper'.... I’m a dealer and can only attest the truth of this post.

one example i bumped into this week on a newly installed bcm50, F986 doesn’t work in conjunction with SWCA auto invoke park by pressing hold, as the call is being parked and F986 can’t pull it out from PARK.

go figure. the next thing I have to do is call tech support to speak to an Indian who has ZERO experience in the product he is supporting, all of his experience comes from a boring training where he went through the feature set ‘on paper’….

]]> By: Ex NT Dude http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Ex NT Dude Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:56:58 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-8 There's quite a bit of truth to this. There are plenty of problems with Nortel products that go years without being fixed, with a "It's a feature, not a bug" attitude. They're notoriously difficult to do business with, their online presence is a joke compared to their competitors, and the internal tools are downright malevolent. Yup, I'm a former employee. There are a lot of wonderfully engineered products (ERS, BCM 4.0, BCM50, and Secure Router come to mind). There are also a lot of products that are more like tech demos than products (Anything on the IP side of the CS1000, the CS2100, and any of the routers developed in-house - Contivity and Flounder, I'm looking at you) There’s quite a bit of truth to this. There are plenty of problems with Nortel products that go years without being fixed, with a “It’s a feature, not a bug” attitude. They’re notoriously difficult to do business with, their online presence is a joke compared to their competitors, and the internal tools are downright malevolent.

Yup, I’m a former employee. There are a lot of wonderfully engineered products (ERS, BCM 4.0, BCM50, and Secure Router come to mind). There are also a lot of products that are more like tech demos than products (Anything on the IP side of the CS1000, the CS2100, and any of the routers developed in-house – Contivity and Flounder, I’m looking at you)

]]> By: John O http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-7 John O Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:01:30 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-7 I have to agree with this post - Sad to say, but this is so true to the point! I have to agree with this post – Sad to say, but this is so true to the point!

]]> By: Jeff D http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Jeff D Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:24:49 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-6 Spot on ! Spot on !

]]> By: Eve http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/06/29/nortel%e2%80%99s-mess-%e2%80%93-why-would-anybody-want-this-why-does-avaya-want-this/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Eve Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:30:49 +0000 http://www.thetelecomblog.com/?p=81#comment-4 You must be an Avaya employee that has lost many bids to the Nortel BCM and CS1000 if you are this bitter. You must be an Avaya employee that has lost many bids to the Nortel BCM and CS1000 if you are this bitter.

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